For example, my wife uses Facebook as her primary communication channel personally and for business. The highest bid for the tweet is currently $2.5 million. (Mathew Ingram / Galley by CJR), TurboTax’s parent company Intuit just acquired Credit Karma for $7.1 billion. Here’s The Information’s Alex Heath: The external Libra Association, which is made up of companies Facebook courted to help govern the project, intends to introduce a Libra token along with the collection of digital government-issued currencies, another person familiar with the plans said. I care about all those other people who are being banned for such "offenses" as criticizing the bannings. There are several problems with this notion Noting that Snap is in a far worse financial position than Twitter — and facing zero consequences from investors over it, because they have no real means of legal resource — Levine writes: An Elliott-led ejection of a public-company CEO is not a pretty sight. Jack Dorsey says proposed cryptocurrency regulation would create ‘perverse incentives’ - The Verge . The Framers were men of their time. It sets a dangerous precedent when statements like 'we got to fight for our rights' results in criminal charges brought for "incitement to violence". After massive blowback, Facebook backed down on this one. They went so far as to even shut down card processing for the founder's wife's business that was unrelated to gab. Re:Of course, what other choice did he have? (Also Dorsey plans to decamp to somewhere in Africa at some point this year, for an unspecified length of time. Yes it's popular and you can argue its importance, but even before this administration it wasn't much of a tool for the Presid. There are plenty of places who will host Trump. Doing so could undermine end-to-end encryption, security technology that makes it so that only the sender and recipient of a message can see its contents. 1. The Tweet can be purchased on a platform called Valuables and can be seen below:. In fact, those property owners enjoy precisely the same First Amendment protections as the people who want to use their property for this purpose. However, in recent years we've seen instances where this breaks down. It's the network's private property. and what we do with them. If you're from back in the day then you should know better. Dorsey cofounded Twitter, was its first CEO, and returned in 2015 as its fourth. I don't know how the account was compromised - but, I notice that Twitter's hardware U2F support is not designed to be very useable. Maybe there will be." I wonder if we ended up with a reality TV show person because Americans want a reality TV show person. Unless something changes dramatically, it would appear that Jack Dorsey is in for the fight of his life. In the press, Singer and similar investors have been compared to vultures, wolves, and hyenas. (Tom Warren / The Verge). If, in the midst of a public gathering, someone shouts "Go get them! THERE IS NO SUCH THING, and you are deliberately abusing a phrase with specific legal meaning to try to make an invalid argument. But business ain’t beanbag, and “good enough” clearly isn’t cutting it for Paul Singer. Really serious. At worst this is like him raiding his own fridge, not somebody else's building. So your argument doesn't really hold water. Gab accepted him and he could use whitehouse.gov so what is the problem? Offline harm as a result of online speech is demonstrably real. English (US) They were mostly peaceful. Rich people DO make the laws, where have you been for 240 years? Twitter is private property. He isn't the law, but he and his shareholders do enjoy the same property rights you do, and is protected under the First Amendment, just like you are. The wallet’s release will coincide with the launch of the digital currencies. The firm has many kinds of investments, but Singer is best known as an “activist” investor, using his fund’s resources—about thirty-five billion dollars—to buy stock in companies in which it detects weaknesses. No. (Cal Newport), WhatsApp is finally getting a new dark mode on iOS and Android today. They don't know what you're sending. It's not the definitive default for everyone and there are countless other ways to get a message out there. As soon as a service becomes a 'common carrier' the actions it takes have an impact that should be considered even if the company is privately owned. theverge.com. I will never stop posting this link because people are too thick headed. (Rob Price / Business Insider), A breast cancer advocate says she discovered a loophole in Facebook’s privacy settings that could put the health data of millions of people at risk. As for the /. culture, or US culture in general. Nobody owes you a platform to speak from. Dorsey expands on Twitter’s vision for a decentralized network "That is something that not only we can host but we can participate in." Which is to say: can Dorsey survive this? Unfortunately we will keep hearing about the Trump boogieman for at least 4 years. When have you complained about people on whatever you consider the left being banned? This discussion has been archived. Jack Dorsey says proposed cryptocurrency regulation would create "perverse incentives" The Square CEO warns that the regulations could lead to cryptocurrency transactions being less visible, not more. And it’s operating at a much larger scale than Facebook ever did.” Thank you to my mother for writing to ask whether I meant that Facebook is operating at a larger scale than Microsoft ever did. He doesn't owe you anything, nor. Or, of course, a deliverer of packages. No, that's when you become a telco or equivalent, e.g. O CEO do Twitter, Jack Dorsey, em uma série de tweets, explicou que sentiu que banir a conta do presidente dos EUA, Donald Trump, foi a medida certa para a rede social. That's why ISPs using DPI should not be considered common carriers. Twitter and Facebook have seen $51 billion in combined market value wiped out since booting Trump [msn.com] from their platforms. On Monday, internal pro-Dorsey discussions bubbled onto Twitter itself, where a few dozen employees tweeted with the hashtag #WeBackJack. Without JavaScript enabled, you might want to turn on Classic Discussion System in your preferences instead. That was the point of labnet's comment. When he returned as CEO in 2015, replacing Dick Costolo, it was just as improbable. This is cool as long as they don't take government grants to make their network accessible to all. Try attacking the content rather than shooting the messenger, see how that goes for you. Interesting Engineering reports that Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has put up the world’s first-ever tweet for sale as a non-fungible token (NFT) with the first bid starting at $2.5 million offered by Sina Estavi, the CEO of Bridge Oracle.. Open Links In New Tab. I care about all those other people who are being banned for such "offenses" as criticizing the bannings. Anybody who quotes them is a partisan hack or a fellow lunatic. It is not difficult, in short, to make a case against Jack Dorsey, and now someone has. Jack Dorsey Defends Twitter's Trump Ban, Then Enthuses About Bitcoin, banned President Trump's account last week, banning Trump's account was the right move for the social network, Twitter Is Funding Independent Effort To Develop an Open and Decentralized Standard For Social Media, Twitter Permanently Bans Trump, While Reddit Bans r/donaldtrump Forum For Inciting Violence, If you did what Trump did you would've been banned, MUST eat kibble, but it tastes like dog food :(, Twitter & Facebook off by $51B Since Booting T, $51 billion in combined market value wiped out since booting Trump, Ps - uprisings all over the country is Nancy. A lot of other people don't gave Paul's visibility. Seems like they may need to work on that for a bit. That choice was deliberate. So facebook makes available to her a whole market she otherwise wouldn't have access to her, and at no cost, and you don't think she should have to avoid inciting insurrections? Hell he could do a sit down with 60 minutes again. This asymmetry will play a major role in 2020 — but the primary drivers are mass media, business, and domestic political actors, not Russians, Facebook, algorithms or bots. Free speech is massively powerful. An accusation of inciting a riot is highly contextual. Dorsey is trying to solve a problem (Trump causes trouble with his insane ranting) with a progressive strategy (limit, regulate or ban Trump). The violent criminals he had been knowingly whipping up in order to threaten others just finally actually followed through on his threats. But this is where things can get sticky: at what point does a mode of communication become so integral to society that denial of access is a limitation of speech? It's not like they're holding your government up at gunpoint. "common carrier" refers to a dump pipe. It’s also gone from 1.7 million lines of code to 360,000. (Helen Branswell / STAT News), Bipartisan negotiators on Capitol Hill are closing in on a $7.5 billion emergency spending bill to fight the coronavirus. Did it never occur to you that we're. The response from all family was... too hard, were too old, oh but my husbands family are all on whats app so its too hard to change. Thus 'common carrier' rules should apply to services that become a default platform for communication. But Twitter is close to becoming a 'common carrier'. Tony Romm at The Washington Post reports: The industry has grown especially apprehensive about lawmakers’ latest political salvo, fearing it is unworkable and could pave the way for the Justice Department and other law enforcement agents to burrow into their networks, devices and services to aid their investigations. In some parts of the world, it’s said that Facebook is the internet itself. The practice is exposing loopholes around the way data can be used to show consumers relevant ads about their personal health. Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey is selling the first-ever published tweet as an NFT, a kind of digital collector's item. Half a billion users seems like a lot, but no doubt a huge number of those are automated account. More posts. Facebook is expected to emphasize the digital versions of existing government currencies in its own wallet. Its all "but muh private corp" untill someone bans liberals. It’s a hedge fund led by the billionaire Paul Singer. "I'm moving $1B of my Square equity (~28% of my wealth) to #startsmall LLC to fund global COVID-19 relief. I think you're reading a lack of concern for Twitter and what Twitter does as support for "huge mega corp Twitter". There are several problems with this notion. Tell us more about how today's internet is dying and you can't register an account on anything while using Tor. Otherwise, don't like the government being their customer? Jack Dorsey, the billionaire co-founder and CEO of Twitter, a man who stans bitcoin right on his Twitter bio, is attempting to sell his very first tweet as an NFT — a digital good that lives on the Ethereum blockchain. Full context: https://techme.me/V=0h After Jack Dorsey promoted an auction on the site Valuables for an NFT of his very first tweet, the bids for “just setting up my twttr” reach $2.5M — Apparently you can actually sell your tweets as NFT — Jack Dorsey, the billionaire co-founder and CEO of Twitter … “Os danos offline como resultado da fala online são comprovadamente reais e o que impulsiona nossa política e aplicação acima de tudo”, escreveu ele. What does one have to do with the other, Trailer Trash? In the short term, employees and allies have rallied around Dorsey. Lot going on with this man!). Copyright © 2021 SlashdotMedia. the problem is not that Twitter has rules, rather, the problem is the selective enforcement of them, Thanks for being honest about the double standard. The Framers never intended that private property owners had to provide platforms for any speech they didn't like. It appears that Trump might have honestly believed that it was possible to physically threaten congress into making him president again. They didn't see the specific circumstances that are now in existence. Subscribe to get the best Verge-approved tech deals of the week. For most of Dorsey’s time as CEO, Twitter has been unprofitable. Germany does it better, the government sends the platform a takedown notice to remove speech that is not protected. Being a "Default Platform" does not remove your right to freedom of association. Gab was not only kicked off all hosting platforms, they also had visa and mastercard refuse to allow them to use credit cards to collect payments. All you have to do is look at election results to see that. You can simply say that "a progressive agenda looks to impose changes to solve problems while a conservative agenda looks to keep things the same". This isn't a free speech issue, and the fact that you seem to think it is speaks poorly of your understanding of the issues. Fourteen states are voting in the Super Tuesday primary. He says he only eats one meal a day and fasts on weekends. In fact just this week twitter itself put out a tweet crying freedom of expression [twitter.com] and the importance of ha. But after a search, Twitter’s board — of which Dorsey was then chairman — settled on him anyway, and he has led it ever since. That amendment made it into the Constitution because the framers thought that the ideal of free speech was worth protecting. But if you’re a tech founder and you watch Elliott wage an ugly proxy fight to get rid of Jack Dorsey for the venial sin of working half-days at his company, the experience might lead you to insist on dual-class stock in your own IPO. Personally, I hear a lot of libertarian opinions here regarding the internet, computers, tech etc. Jack Dorsey Says Donald Trump’s Twitter Ban Was Right … "We faced an extraordinary and untenable circumstance, forcing us to focus all of our actions on public safety," Dorsey wrote … From : … The legislation is likely to be announced Tuesday and pass the House later this week, before moving to the Senate. Going in front of the media would require him to answer questions. back in the day would defend free speech as a fundamental requirement for a society to function.Now I'm seeing a majority on /. It will operate transparently, all flows tracked here:" (Tweet). But if even half of this checks out, the people involved need serious jail time, and are likely to get it. They are called harvesters, the go and fraudulently obtain postal votes, some to extremely criminal extents and they get paid for the right votes. You need to recognize America and it's constitution are a dead letter. Literally all that was left was armed insurrection, and he incited it by telling his followers that they weren't going to accept the results, and that they had to fight. Free speech absolutism fails to produce liberty if the authoritarians are willing to devote significant effort to spamming authoritarian propaganda, and you can't afford to spend 4-5 times as much effort on following each one of them around debunking their every claim. Yesterday in the newsletter I wrote “Today Facebook is arguably the entry point to technology for most people. There. The US has a unique history and a unique perspective on liberty and freedom that naturally isn't shared by other countries around the world. The highest bid for the tweet is currently $2.5 million. Public courts using transparent procedures weigh in and determine whether someo. Enter Techmeme snapshot date and time: Jack Dorsey is in for the fight of his life, This story is part of a group of stories called, Sign up for the Imagine how he felt, having to do that, thinking "this sure would be easier to do, if I could just write it, instead of having to tweet it.". It sets a dangerous precedent when statements like 'we got to fight for our rights' results in criminal charges brought for "incitement to violence". But the fact that the coup attempt he incited would never have worked doesn't change the fact that he incited it. Only the USA could create vote Harvesters and still call itself a democracy, so. Also apologies to Drew Harwell and Erin Cox, whom we mistakenly identified as reporters for the New York Times. Meanwhile, Big Tech is balls-deep in government money. You can't even name one, that's how little you care, you've never even taken the time to look. This is serious. In fact they are distinguished reporters for the Washington Post. Also the people being asked to "march on the capital" were being asked to do so to pressure congress to take an unconstitutional action and appoint Trump as president in place of Biden in contradiction of the states' electoral votes. Your wife has chosen to put herself at Facebook's mercy. So from all of those who love free speech: kindly fuck off and stop trying to convince people it's unimportant. You can argue that someone can always find hosting elsewhere (which at the scale Parler needs isn't easy) but card processing? A signature Elliott tactic is the release of a letter harshly criticizing the target company’s C.E.O., which is often followed by the executive’s resignation or the sale of the company. In essence, Twitter's web platform is private property. If the same logic was going against some protected class like ours, everyone would be on our side. We are not responsible for them in any way. 1- When you become a default platform for communication, you are close to being a 'common carrier', so your censoring actions have big almost totalatarian effects. Or when 'march on the Capitol' is charged as 'calling for insurrection'. Jack Dorsey’s account was hacked (theverge.com) 155 points by minimaxir 78 days ago | hide | past | web | favorite | 167 comments: philip1209 78 days ago. 1- When you become a default platform for communication, you are close to being a 'common carrier', so your censoring actions have big almost totalatarian effects. 1.4k members in the Techfeed community. Like other tech platforms, it was exploited productively by Russia during the 2016 election. The Verge - Twitter co-founder and CEO Jack Dorsey now plans to convert the proceeds from the NFT auction of his first tweet to bitcoin and donate them to charity. If you act like that, you are exactly the same as the mob that raided the Capitol. Trending up: Pinterest is limiting search results for the coronavirus outbreak to information from mainstream health organizations. In a new study published in American Economic Review, deactivating Facebook was shown to free up 60 minutes of time for participants. Facebook tries, it has training for staff but they still get it wrong. We all need to grow up and starting talking to each other like. The right-wing media ecosystem is distinct and insular from the rest of the mainstream press, says Harvard professor Yochai Benkler. if I own a grocery store it is my right as a private business owner to deny service to someone as I see fit. I don't know where you live, but I'm not subject to any such restrictions on magazine capacity, lawn height or anything to do with MPG in my car. It is better for everybody to keep a healthy discussion, not just push ideas underground. Check out the new BlockFi credit card that offers 1.5% Bitcoin rewards on all purchases! Agreed, and that's a problem (hence the disclaimer.). What do these types of entities have in common? "I just donâ(TM)t know why there arenâ(TM)t uprisings all over the country. There are several problems with this notion1- When you become a default platform for communication, you are close to being a 'common carrier', so your censoring actions have big almost totalatarian effects.2- Forcing people off 'common carrier' forums forces them underground or onto platforms where the 'group speak' effect is worse. Maybe there will be.". While you wait for the results to come in, I invite you to look at our package on what’s at stake for Silicon Valley in the months leading up to the general election and beyond. Thanks mom. Twitter kickbanning him isn't " turning over major Constitutional powers to an oligopoly of large corporations.". Common carriers carry packages (or packets) whose contents they are not familiar with. The 1st Amendment to the US Constitution protects, among other things, the people of the United States of America from having the government suppress speech. Trending up: Google is making videoconferencing tools available for free to customers to aid them during mandatory work-from-home orders related to the coronavirus outbreak. Jack Dorsey says proposed cryptocurrency regulation would create "perverse incentives" The Square CEO warns that the regulations could lead to cryptocurrency transactions being less visible, not more. I don't see any articles that give that figure, and to be honest, it seems ludicrous. I can't believe slashdot is now infested with commies who want to be able to force people to let them use their private property because it's for "the people" or something. This bill is awful. Facebook OWN my wifes demographic. 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Venture capitalists and tech executives are voicing their support for moderate presidential candidates like Mike Bloomberg and Pete Buttigieg (before he dropped out). Right now, the way it operates it feels like a giant MLM scam ( and in a sense, that is exactly what it is ). If you don't like that the bar throws some patrons out for being rowdy, but Mr. Jones, who leaves three digit tips every night, is allowed to stay even if he's banging on the table all night long, is certainly not fair, but your remedy is to find another bar. (Eric Newcomer / Bloomberg). Evidently not to Mr. Dorsey — nor the majority of Slashdotters. And once again, the First Amendment only applies to the government. Then we finished college, realized Ayn Rand was a crackpot, got real jobs, started families, realized there are people we care about having a future. Stop being a wanker. Jack Dorsey says proposed cryptocurrency regulation would create "perverse incentives" Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey’s first tweet is well-known on the platform. Tesla CEO Elon Musk, who recently appeared via FaceTime at Twitter’s annual employee conference, tweeted his support as well, posting that Dorsey has “a good [heart emoji].”. He got the result he was aiming for. A shame, really. Jack Dorsey, the 42-year-old CEO of Twitter, received a lot of attention last week for the revelation of his unusualand very unhealthydiet. That’s what Mark Zuckerberg did at Facebook, and later Evan Spiegel did at Snap. Believe me, I'm old enough to have lived in America, and freedom of speech was so foundational to that country that this could never have been a question there. We need to make sure we can always talk to each other. The most visible example was Ron Paul:https://fee.org/articles/faceb... [fee.org]. Disclaimer: Seth Abramson has a history of lobbing "truth bombs" on Twitter that never quite go off as promised. Just curious what your logic is, because that seems shallow minded. The company has made many, many promises about what it might do eventually, starting with its unyielding problem with users harassing one another, and then mostly under-delivered. (Nitasha Tiku / The Washington Post), Facebook has built a fleet of robots to patrol its data centers. change, I'm afraid it's the new generation, people that grew up with the notion that it is ok to trade some of the essential liberties for a little temporary safety. That's the kind of person he is, so I guess you can label him a "liberal" although it's a meaningless term that doesn't even being to describe reali. When talking about tech people they aren't referring to your average sysadmin that posts online. Now that's just stupid. Why couldn't whitehouse.gov's bandwidth provider not cut it off? He emphasized how the regulation would hurt Square, a financial services company, in a letter posted to the company website. Jack Dorsey says proposed cryptocurrency regulation would create "perverse incentives" But business ain’t beanbag, and “good enough” clearly isn’t cutting it for Paul Singer. Denying its importance is the first step for genuine state driven censorship. Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey imagines a future where you get to choose what you see on social media by picking out your favorite recommendation algorithm, rather than relying on a single controlling company to get it exactly right. The new version is 30MB, less than a quarter of its peak size. People with a clue know that is nonsense and Jan 6 was a formality by the time it happened because there was no dispute about electors for them to make a decision about. ⭐ Congress is expected to introduce new legislation on Wednesday that would force tech companies to take aggressive steps to stop child sexual exploitation online, or risk losing their legal protections under Section 230. Singer, who is seventy-three, with a trim white beard and oval spectacles, is deeply involved in everything Elliott does. She’s filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission, saying that Facebook had an obligation to protect membership lists for health groups and failed to disclose the alleged vulnerability to users. 26 million people went to protest over many months. Why isn’t trump using the whitehouse.gov site to communicate? Their content is worthless. The Verge - Twitter co-founder and CEO Jack Dorsey now plans to convert the proceeds from the NFT auction of his first tweet to bitcoin and donate them to charity. His seditious comments and incitement were not confined to the one rally. (Steven Melendez / Fast Company). A common carrier is either "a person or company that transports goods or passengers on regular routes at set rates" or "a company providing public telecommunications facilities." They’re increasingly worried about a Bernie Sanders win, although many of their employees are campaigning for him. Makena Kelly is keeping an up-to-date guide of. At least that's a start. Since he returned, Twitter shares are down 6.2 percent, Bloomberg reported last week, while Facebook’s are up 121 percent. The auction will end on March 21st, and he plans to donate the bitcoin to Give Directly, a … Not everyone will make it through the entire thread so you put the most important stuff (and also the stuff the most people will agree with) up top and work your way down. They can no more be forced to carry content they don't want than a newspaper could be forced to publish a letter to the editor that they think is junk. They organized themselves against their own government, and when they were done throwing off that government, they set up a government that explicitly made what they had chosen to do (illegally under their former government) legal under the government they set up, despite the fact that they were now in charge of that government. (Jeremy B. Merrill / Quartz), The US government has reached out to TikTok to talk about political misinformation. Plus there is the commonly repeated notion that most of the tweets come from quite a small percentage of users. One that both the left and right should find reasonable is that a private company like this shouldn't be allowed to offer a public service, then arbitrarily discriminate against a specific person for no legitimate reason. However, if I own 90% of the grocery stores in a metropolitan area and I deny service to all of them, the ramifications are different. Again, there's this nuance that comes into play, something courts have some expertise with. So, these aren't the "private companies" you're looking for. As a simple example for comparison, if I own a grocery store it is my right as a private business owner to deny service to someone as I see fit. And once again, the First Amendment only applies to the government. So tell me, this fresh new political philosophy that you espouse, does it involve acts of sedition? And banning Donald Trump, in particular after Trump egged on a pack of seditionists and insurrectionists, is his prerogative. It may be effective for him, personally, though quite useless for other Twitter employees. Yeah. If you don't like it, create a national public access. This country needs some real leadership.I wish Colin Powell or Paul Ryan had run - they wouldn't be saying crap like what we're getting from our leaders today. Drug companies are growing bolder about advertising on Facebook. By that point Dorsey had founded a second successful business, the payments company Square, and was leading it as CEO.