Both are very skilled in bouncing attacks - particularly Cyclops as he has a higher order grasp of spatial geometries. what do you want me to say Cyclops can hold his own against Daredevil or the Black Panther. Hit the notification bell to see new episodes! Cyclops by Buckus. Published on Aug 25, 2011. … Sand is loose. For all intents and purposes it is indestructible except against molecular rearrangers. Cyclops vs Street Levelers are all essentially the same, it ultimately depends on if they could close the distance and if their a good enough fighter to demolish Scott up close. Compare Cyclops vs Captain America enemies, rival teams, weakness, friends & group affiliations. Download This Song! AvX Fun Fact: Alex Summers aka Havok doesn’t like for his brother Scott Summers aka Cyclops to have all the fun. And you don't think that Cyclops can shoot as soon as he sees Cap using his shield as a weapon and no longer a defensive item? But that's the problem. Wolverine is hundreds of years old with experience hardened from every major war since World War One and special ops experience amongst other things. Too many characters have dodged his beams for me to believe that they're even close to light speed. Yeah man I wasn't arguing that his shield was invulnerable, I was just saying that he took that Nova from 5ft away and didn't budge. Your scenario leaves it open for Cyclops to win even though its purpose is to show that Cap wins. i think it could go either way. also one thing cyclops had over captain america are his pals and to name the few. lol if he doesn't Cap would make it look like he did. I dont think that anyone, at any time in this thread, said that the shield could be damaged. I'm not ignoring anything. Of course Cyke could shoot the shield away and then turn his head in time to blast Cap, knocking him out completely. Cyclops however can not only really on his optic beam (which definately travels a lot slower than light speed - it's about the same speed as a repulsor blast from the look of things) to attack Cap. Cap would have to throw his shield from an angle so it arcs, it goes to the up-right and then comes back down towards cyclops (basic technique in Frisbee) because if he throws it at cyclops directly, Cykes can shoot a wide blast to hit Cap and the shield. Save Up to 60%. Yeah but the arguement was that it would be powerful enough to knock him back and maybe stun him, which does seem plausible enough. A stalemate is possible, I'm just saying I think could win and I'm giving that scenerio. Doubly so when you consider that Captain America is unable to throw his shield in this thread without risk of losing it. I think we are confusing the two scenarios. Back to topic. Cyclops has a lot of hand to hand training and has been shown to hold his own against wolverine. There's too little margin of error for cap there. Best leader Marvel has ever created. Platform: FightCadeCharacters: Captain America/CyclopsDifficulty: ExpertThis is just a video of a Marvel Super Heroes VS Street Fighter playthrough. And I'm not quite sure of the physics entailed in Cyclop's optic blast uprooting 'sand'. Cyke can bounce his beams but it's not quite the same (plus Cap can bounce his shield too). Stage: MVC- New York city Skyline by Kung Fu Man. It's not hard earth so I don't know that such a blast would create several foot deep pitfalls in a 180 degree radius for 200 feet around. Confronteremo Cyclops vs Captain America potenze. When he went full power against the Sentinal in Astonishing Xmen he not only destroyed it but almost practically destroyed the giant forest behind it. Gender: Male Location: The 139. cyclops vs. captain america (from the backcourt) About the FTL beams, I disagree. Steve Rogers considers Cyclops a smart tactician but a flawed man, while Cyclops resents Cap for failing to support the mutant race in their hour of need. Havok unleashes his powers at Captain America, who ducks behind his shield but is still thrown backwards. He can overcome these advantages with the multiple ways he can use his beam. If Captain America were to kill Cyclops then there would likely be a mission that could lead to a different AvX scenario. It would be harder for cap without shield, but Cap takes this match. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. lol yeah aside from the fact that he's dead. I know Cap is faster, but his shield has been dodged before. In scenario #1 - the sneaky scenario - Steve's enhanced senses give him a distinct advantage IMO and Cyclops trying to uproot the earth/shift the sand in such a mass area of effect seems a long shot and a slightly desperate ploy... again, IMO. Sorry. But he should be able to keep Cap hoping until he can take him out. I feel that this would ultimately prove highly ineffective. Watch as they kick off a series of battles starting with the team captains Cyclops faces off against Captain America in the new 3D map built by Gursh One. I rock this. Cyclops vs Captain America. I've never heard of Cyclops eye blasts being faster then the speed of light. The reason I added the lightning intervals is to keep their eyes from adjusting to the dark and for light, i'm not sure if it'll make them equal though. Cyclops. If Cap throws his shield, he should have enough time to blast it and alter the trajectory and of course he could always bounce his blasts with trick shots too. Compare Cyclops vs Captain America on basis of powers, enemies, key facts and much more. Captain America vs. Havok. One of the few people in comic's I actually feel comes off as an actual leader rather than some f#@#₽er that yells a catch phrase before they jump into battle.He's the character that organically grew from a self doubting second guesser to the man that couldn't afford to lose or everything would fall apart. Spiderman would be way too much for Cap. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I'm not saying Cyclops loses every time, just that he's outmatched in H2H and Cap has a slight advantage in the long range attack area as well. cap throws shield takes out his glases and then he closes his eyes afarid of hurting people and cap comes knock him out. Scott's no match for Cap in hand to hand, so if cap gets the opportunity to get in close it's lights out. It would not react like hard earth. So I guess Cyclops wins by default. It does disperse kinectic energy as Cap and the shield have been hit by the Hulk before and not been knocked back significantly. The X-Men challenged him at every corner yet he still led mutant-kind to safety despite all the opposition he faced from other X-Men. It's the super soldier of the Avengers verses the super soldier of Overwatch. I was worried as all hell that you werent going to put that Scott cant remove his visor lol. or he just keeps charging and stopping to deal with cyclops' shots. In fact I'm pretty sure he has. However, at the end of the day, Captain America is a your cookie-cutter 'hero.' Cyclops, meanwhile, knows that he is different. For example, the huge blast that covers the whole area would be unavoidable. Seriously though I think Cap would win. It could go either way but I'm giving this to Cap, mainly because Cyk annoys me. In both these scenarios, I see Steve as heavily advantageous due to a plethora of feats highlighting A) his avoidance capabilities, B) skill at defense and mastery with his shield and C) his running speed and physical enhancements - all of which help him tremendously in scenario #2. Captain America would kick the tar outta Logan. Being Cap is much faster than Cyclops, he'll toss the shield at Cy, and when cy shoots it away, Cap'll have gotten in range, grabbed his arm, thrown him down onto the floor, dislocated his arm and broke his neck. and being he's fast, he can get there fast enough. Too many characters have dodged his beams for me to believe that they're even close to light speed. I don't think Scott can generate this much force because in West Coast Avengers #48 Cap jumps from about nine stories up down to the ground with his shield underneath him(Legs and body tucked into the shield). Most times out of ten (maybe 7) Cap would win. I do think that in around 1 minute, Cap would win in a straigth hand to hand fight but the key here is both are great 'soldiers'. So when Cyclops opens up with a full blast at his shield it would be enough to (not even scratch the shield) but knock Cap off of his feet and send him flying. You also totally ignore how Cap closed in on him. I see clouds of sand flying into the air and obstructing Scotts vision and giving away his position more than anything else. Cap has a physical advantage but it would be hard for him to get close to use it, and even up close, it just makes it easier for Cyclops to hit him. Captain America: deflect, dodge, deflect, kick Scott in the groin. You need not worry anymore as we are providing you with the most reliable information about Captain America vs Cyclops powers, enemies, key facts and much more. Captain America vs Cyclops Comparison. At the end of the first act, Cyclops bonds with The Phoenix Force along with Emma Frost, Magik, Colossus, and … Even if Wolverine blocked one of cyclops' hits, that's it, fight over, he's broken Scott's arm. While older than Cyclops when he began, he would be thrust into situations that were arguably more dangerous from the get-go and would quickly be entrusted with the command of both soldiers and the other first superheroes of the Marvel Universe, the Invaders. It's not hard earth so I don't know that such a blast would create several foot deep pitfalls in a 180 degree radius for 200 feet around. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Cyclops's optic blast swings the battle in his favor big time.Up close and face to face, cyclops wins by virtue of his optic blast. Peter would've won not Man to Man but Spider to Man. I am unsure if this thread will remain unlocked but considering Cyclops has spent a significant time of his life blind and seems every bit as capable without his vision, I think this thread might favor him. His beams do get dodged an awful lot and though I think that's just to make the story interesting, ... Captain America vs. Cyclops : whowouldwin. It's the kind of thing he would do and has done (not to cap, but to multiple targets and moving targets). And I'm telling you that even if your scenario where Cap wins, it's possible for Cyclops to win, but you don't see that side of it. He can attack buildings - shattering walls to drop debris on Cap and keep Cap having to use the shield to protect himself and dodge. Captain America by MystikBlaze. He explains he's fine because his shield is able to absorb and dissipate impact so well that as long as he has the shield underneath him, he'll be fine. Cap would block with his shield, probably getting knocked back or pushed back with his feet on the ground. Cap vs Cyclops in a game of pool would be a better "fight"." Luke Cage finds a camera crew shooting live and makes a plea to his wife… If Cyc pulled off a direct hit on Cap he would take him out, or at least do considerable damage. cyclops has a great support system unlike cap who has further boring characters I have yet to see reference in pop culture or know by even name refernce. Top 10 MCU Moments That Take Place Between Captain America: The First Avenger and Captain Marvel. FIND OUT MORE. Decide who is more powerful! When Captain America takes the lead of a team, he is someone who respects everyone he leads. Even if Cyclops did land a hit on Wolverine, what happens to your bones when you punch a wall of adamantium? Stay tune for … Also, they're beams of concussive force, not actual light so I wouldn't expect them to go as fast as light. They plan, attack, move, counter attack etc. That scenario would depend on whether Cyke would notice that Cap was setting him up for an attack like that, and keep enough distance between the two of them so that Cap couldn't rush him quickly enough. http://smarturl.it/Battle84Official Voting! Cyclops goes up against Captain America. Also, you're adding things to your scenario, things like distance and how Cap reacts to his shield coming back at him. KMC Forums > Comic Book Forums > Comic Book 'Versus' Forum > cyclops vs. captain america (from the backcourt) Pointinel. If Cap can protect himself enough from the Blasts and can hit Cyclops at least one time, it's over from there. I hold that in this case, Steve has seen Cyclops first from 200 feet away due to enhanced vision, whereas Cyclops could not possibly hope to see Steve, and CA would work his way towards Scott's position carefully, using the dunes to hide his approach and get the drop on Cyclops. The relationship between the X-Men and the Avengers has long been a troubled one, and Cyclops and Captain America, in particular, have rarely seen eye-to-eye. I don't like when you write stories, they're always very one sided. Back in the Secret War, Cap's shield took a full blast Human Torch Nova from like 5 ft away and was fine...but then Cyclops has often been described as being able to "level mountains" with his beams...but then Cap's shield has taken beats from Thor with the Odin Force before it actually got dented...so I think i'd have to go with Cap. Marvel Comics vs Overwatch. He could throw his sheild off this or that and catch Cyclops off guard.Post Edited:2007-06-29 19:10:18. Cap's long range weapon has a significant advantage over Cyke's in that in can be used separately from his body allowing him to attack in more than one direction at a time. And neither have an advantage when it comes to senses, Cap can hear Scott and Scott can see Cap. Cyclops is taking a stand and trying to get a bead on Steve in the dark, and Steve is running at Cyclops, shield in hand, blocking and or dodging anything that gets to him. I was never arguing that Cyclops would win, just that he would have a decent chance. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Unlike Captain, Cyclops isn't surrounded by sheep. And why can't Cyclops duck and shoot like Cap ducks and punches? I give the edge to Captain America because he is the rarer type, but I give a lot of credit to Cyclops for leading in a more difficult situation. Captain America arrives on Utopia to take Hope Summers into protective custody over her being the Phoenix's new host. Well the fight is in the middle of an abandoned city so I doubt anyone would get hurt :P But the thing about Cyclops if he goes full power is the sheer size of the beam. Cyclops is a good fighter, but not on the same level as Cap. Cyclops vs Captain America # Captain America Captain of X-men vs Captain of Avengers. You're trying to show that Cap will win, but in the situation you created to show it, Cyclops can win too. I never said He throws the Shield like 10 feet away, I'm saying he throws it at like 5 feet. Any freaking way, if Cap can take on Spidey in hand to hand (Civil War) and whip him, I know that Cyclops would be down for the count pretty quickly. He could also just duck the one that isn't alive and able to improvise (the shield, duh) and blast Cap out of the air now that he's defenseless. 1) In the one, both are using stealth; Cyclops is hiding behind a dune and trying to cave in 200 feet of earth/sand in a 180 degree radius with a powerful optic blast to compromise Steve's approach and thereby get a bead on him... correct? But then again Cyke can spread the beam so wide that Cap would have to crouch down behind his shield to keep from getting pulverized or wait until Cap throws his shield and then give him one of those wide blasts. lol because wolverine is an X-man and so isnt Cyclops. Re-read the issue. If anything, if Pete wanted too, he could've just webbed Cap up and kicked his ass. As mentioned before but to just clarify, even on his best day Cyclops could not damage the shield. Too true. During the X-Men vs the Avengers angle, Cyclops stood up to Captain America protecting Hope Summers. Without a shadow of a doubt, Cyclops is one of the strongest X-Men ever and his abilities should have been too much to handle for Cap. And it is made out of vibranium so it soaks up most of the kinetic force directed at it. Also Cap could use trick shots to. And neither have an advantage when it comes to senses, Cykes can hear Steve and Steve can see Cykes. Sand is loose. Sand would shift beneath CA's feet, and yes, he may lose his footing. To lay a finger on Wolverine, claws or not, adamantium or not, healing factor or not, you have to be one of the best, and Cyclops knows his way around a fight, but Wolverine would bitch slap the optic powers straight out of Cylops' skull. I really don't. That should at least net him a tie when the shield bounces off a few walls and hits him in the head. Now that I think about it, I actually cykes. Possibly and if Cyclops tries tracking the shield so that he can blast it off course before it ricochets in his direction, Cap could get in close and engage him in hand to hand. Captain America and Cyclops are both great leaders. Plus even when he took that full powered Thor swing to the shield that dented it, it didn't even knock him THAT far away...your probably right but I think it'll be a similar scenario as in the Secret Wars, it'll merc everything AROUND him but he may be able to stand his ground against it. It would not react like hard earth. This battle? I see clouds of sand flying into the air and obstructing Scotts vision and giving away his position more than anything else. Both can locate their target. If it somehow degenerated into a fist fight then Cyclops would get battered. I'm much like a cyclone. I'm only stating the distance. Cyclops can only see in red, and though it's dark, I believe he'd have the same visibility. New videos every week! Anyway id give this to Scott at 200 feet Steve is going to be pretty pinned down i dont see him being able to do much at that distance and its only a matter of time before Scott connects and then its all over. He is a mutant who can only control his powers with his visor. Yes, you're stating a possibility, but not looking at others that can occur in your very own scenario. Cap beats Cylops into a fine paste. there very skilled one has an indestructible defence, and the other has a strong raged attack. A direct blast from Cyk would mess up Cap pretty bad, but Cap would block with his shield. And I'm not quite sure of the physics entailed in Cyclop's optic blast uprooting 'sand'. i cant there not x-men and they dont cross over that often, so wolverine it is. Being so accurate at bouncing his beams and predicting the positions of himself and his enemy is why he's so good at pool. People keep bringing it up, but we all know that the shield is for all intents and purposes (certainly regarding this battle) indesctructable. cyclops vs. captain america (from the backcourt) #16 BALLER STATUS IV LIFE. Then we're in agreement. Season 2 premiere. There's a numerous amount of ways this fight can go, but the overall is that we think Cap is going to win, right or wrong? But Steve outthought Cyclops and the latter's aggressive nature was exploited by the leader of the Avengers. plus you never see these to together and i think it would be a decent battle. 1 . Both can locate their target. Not that I'm saying he would win, but with that long range weapon he has a good chance. Cyclops vs Captain America Lyrics. That's not going to win them the fight. 'Cuz nothing can stop this. Post Edited:2007-07-04 21:29:11. Altghough both are tactical genius's, Cap does have the endurance edge. Not faster then but I would think they would be about that speed. rogue, wolverine, emma, jean, cable, beast. [Verse 1: Cyclops] Hold up, It's Cyclops, I got this. Plus, the defense is one-sided and Cyclops is an expert and maneuvering his beams to hit from directions other than head on. I vote Cap. Looking for a proper Captain America Cyclops Comparison?We know lots about All Superheroes and Super Villains but when it comes to choose the best from the lot, we are in a fix. Captain America: Caps defensive and offensive tool counters Cyclops, and they both are trig geniuses that can instinctually tell ricochet patterns. But it can only absorb so much force. SIMILAR SUGGESTIONS. Trickshot726 18,748 views Cap vs Cyclops in a game of pool would be a better "fight". It all depends on how much of the concussive force it would absorb. That was a slight vibe I was getting from the first page. Avengers Mansion is still surrounded by protestors. He also has an amazing defense, but if he gives it up to attack, then Cyclops can put him down without effort. His beams do get dodged an awful lot and though I think that's just to make the story interesting, I'll go along with it being so slow that Cap can actually dodge it. I am more than happy to agree to disagree, but hope that my little summary here at least cleared up where I believe we are both coming from. Why do people always use Wolverine as a gage? 2) Here, none are trying anything sneaky. 6 0 . Cap could also dodge the optic blast and throw his shield, pretty much taking out Cyc. Also about the whole shield getting shot back at Cap, I'm saying what if Cap gets close enough and throws it he ducks under the Shield and punches Cyclops. As I said before, I think it could go either way or easily end in a stalemate like Forever said. I really don't. Isnt Cap already dead? I was never arguing that Cyclops would win, just that he would have a decent chance. who would have it? I think what you said, with them both getting knocked out is likely to be what would happen. Captain America would have better vision, anyway. Firstly, Steve can block attacks from Scott by using his shield (Avengers vs X-men, 2012) Captain America's persona and demeanor inspires. Or, Cyclops bounces a beam off the shield towards Cap, hitting both before they reach him. CYCLOPS (SCOTT SUMMERS)EARTH-616 In 'Avengers vs X-Men' (2012) #1, titled "Avengers vs. X-Men (Part One)", Cyclops performs an energy projection feat. Added to that someone mentioned him taking a Nova blast from the torch from 5 feet away without budging, and I'm pretty sure that in terms of blast power that's stronger than what Scott can manage, but maybe not. Say he did blast Cap and send him flying, then what, Cap would employ some military tactics and gain position on Cyclops and take him out with a well placed shield shot. Cap putting a shield upside Cyclops' head is. About the FTL beams, I disagree. But he better knock him out quick because all Cyclops has to do is press that button in his glove and open his visor. ... Rogers has exceptionally keen eyesight and hearing Captain America once stated that he was able to dodge bullets because he "sees faster than them". Sand would shift beneath CA's feet, and yes, he may lose his footing. AvX Fun Fact: Captain America aka Steve Rogers has just about had enough of the Summer family. And for the record, I read someone say earlier that Cylops could equal Wolverine in a straight up hand to hand fight; I've gotta say that is so freaking ridiculous. yeah i made the fight in an abandoned city to avoid any out side interference. May 5, 2014 - Article by FisterRoboto of lefthandhorror.com Shit is getting real in the world of The Avengers, and issue # 24 lets you glimpse the personal intensity building up to Cap and Cyclops beachfront brawl. Cyclops is strong and a good fighter, but he's not Cap. Captain America Vs Cyclops Stop Motion Fight - Duration: 1:29. Decidere chi è più potente! This will do two things, demonstrate to the world how powerful a team Cyclops created and to dissuade any attempts to destroy the x men now that their leader is dead. Why not Cyclops? Team Cyclops: Cyclops, Wolverine, Rogue, Beast, Gambit, Jubilee, Psylocke, and Havok vs. Not sure if Cyc would keep using his optic blast for too long, but he would be considerably weakened if he blasted for too long. Cyclops has never been a hero in the conventional sense of the word. I didn't say the shield gets knocked back at cap, I said the beam bounces off of the shield and towards Cap, something that Cyclops has done before. We will compare Captain America vs Cyclops powers. BATTLE: Captain America vs Cyclops. Also with Cyckes glowing visor in the darkness it would be easier to spot as well. Unless its some exotic slow moving light beam coming from his eyes. I don't have anything against either character just stating a possibility. Initiating the fight, Cyclops knocks back Captain America with an optic blast.